Google's failure to preserve internal chats 'concerning,' juror from Epic Games trial in US says

Google's failure to preserve internal chats 'concerning,' juror from Epic Games trial in the US tells MLex

Google suffered a historic loss this week as a federal jury in San Francisco found, at the conclusion of litigation filed by Epic Games, that it runs an illegal monopoly through its Android app store and engaged in anticompetitive conduct.

Following the verdict, a juror from the case told MLex® Senior Correspondent Xu Yuan that Google’s failure to preserve internal chats related to the US litigation was “concerning” and cast doubts on the company's integrity.

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12 December 2023
By Xu Yuan

Google’s failure to preserve internal chats related to the US litigation filed by Epic Games was “concerning” and cast doubts on the company's integrity, a juror told MLex today.

Google suffered a historic loss yesterday as a federal jury in San Francisco found it runs an illegal monopoly through its Android app store and engaged in anticompetitive conduct.

A member of the nine-person jury said in an interview that the missing chats — internal communications carried out on the Google Chat instant messaging platform — were “concerning.”

“I did take that into account,” said the juror, who declined to be identified by name.

The default setting for one-on-one chats has been set to “history off” by Google, meaning chats would be permanently deleted after 24 hours. After the Epic litigation stated, Google left the decision to turn history on to employees themselves, including those on legal hold.

“Honestly I had a hard time with some of the integrity of the Google employees … A lot of it has to do with the Google chats and the history-off setting,” the juror said. The decision made it hard to tell if the employees were hiding something, the juror said.

The juror said Google’s practice of labeling nonconfidential materials as client-attorney privileged was also “pretty concerning.”

The juror works on the security and integrity team at the Social Security Administration. “Integrity is a big part of what we do … I just think they need a refresher on integrity a little bit there.”

But even if the chats had not been deleted, "I think [based on] the evidence of just all the contracts that they were involved in, it seems like they were really trying to limit the competition of competing app stores in that Android world," the juror said.

The verdict, delivered after about three hours of deliberation, shocked many. The juror attributed the speed of the verdict to the fact that the jurors have come to know each other well. “When the time came, we weren't afraid to get down to business,” the juror said.

The CEOs

The juror found Epic CEO Tim Sweeney “very honest,” “a down-to-earth person,” and “very passionate of what he does.”

“I could appreciate Tim’s testimony,” the juror said.

While both CEOs acted professionally, according to the juror, Google CEO Sundar Pichai’s explanation for deleting a request to turn history off in chats didn’t go over well. “You can see he tried to delete that statement, and he said it was a glitch in the in the chat system. So that was a little concerning to me,” the juror said.

At the elevator outside the courtroom after the verdict, the juror said, Sweeney told jurors that there could be a million app developers that wanted to say thank you.

Many members of the jury took the opportunity to take selfies with Sweeney.

“Good for them,” the juror said of Epic’s efforts to take on Google, citing Epic’s refusal to accept a deal from Google valued at $208 million. “It looks like it paid off for them.”

The agreements

Google’s agreements with gaming companies such as Activision Blizzard King (ABK) and Riot Games, and those with smartphone makers about preinstalling Google’s apps, showed that “Google was trying to push down competition there,” according to the juror.

The juror said the evidence showed that potential app stores operated by ABK and Riot never came into existence after talks with Google.

The juror pointed to evidence that a potential deal with phonemaker OnePlus to preinstall Epic’s Fortnite launcher was dropped because of OnePlus’s agreement with Google. The juror said it was “a little alarming to me … that there were these agreements that kind of put a halt to Epic moving forward with their app store.”

Google’s competition

Google, in its defense, relied heavily on its competition with Apple throughout the trial. The juror, however, said that competition only exists at the initial stage of buying a phone. The juror was the only Android user on the nine-person jury.

“When it comes to making a decision on a phone, personally for me, the App Store — I don't take that into consideration,” the juror said.

Google also said that Samsung was allowed to preinstall its Galaxy Store on its phones. That defense was also found unconvincing by the juror, who doesn’t remember ever using the Galaxy Store.

“I just don't think Samsung’s Galaxy store is a real competition to the Play Store,” the juror said.

The experts

During the trial, the market definition proposed by Google’s economist Catherine Tucker prompted much questioning from US District Judge James Donato.

As with Donato, the juror “had a hard time understanding her definition of the market,” which seemed to be “digital goods and transactions everywhere all at once.”

The juror, however, was “pretty impressed” by Epic’s economist, Douglas Bernheim. “He really made it easier to understand, in my opinion ... what point he was trying to get across,” the juror said. “He was a pretty powerful tool for the Epic team, I think.”

The juror made a decision on the case before going into deliberations. While the meter swayed between Epic and Google as different witnesses testified, during Bernheim's testimony, “it kind of became clear to me on my decision,” the juror said.

Bernheim's clear market definition was persuasive, the juror said.

The star attorney

After the trial, jurors also took pictures with Epic’s lawyer, whose style seems to have provided entertaining theater in a trial that sometimes could be dry.

“We were a big fan of Epic’s lawyer … Lauren Moskowitz,” the juror said.

“She was really lively,” the juror said. “We were always looking forward to her … [giving] us a little jolt of energy.”

“She did not mess around. She got down to business,” the juror said.

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A memorable month for antitrust

Comment: Google faces potential business model changes to app store after Epic wins US antitrust fight

12 December: Google faces the threat of significant changes to its app store business in the wake of a jury today deciding, for the first time this century, that a large tech company violated US antitrust laws.

Google’s Play store violates US antitrust laws, jury finds in Epic lawsuit

12 December: Google violated US antitrust laws in running its Google Play app store, a federal jury found today in a lawsuit filed by Epic Games.

Epic Games, Google antitrust case goes to jury as US trial over Android app store ends

11 December: A nine-person jury in San Francisco started deliberations in the US antitrust lawsuit filed by Epic Games against Google over the Play Store, its Android app store.

Comment: Epic Games-Google antitrust trial nears end with US jury set to hear closing arguments soon

7 December: On Monday, a nine-person federal jury in San Francisco will hear closing arguments by lawyers for Epic Games and Google before starting deliberations in Epic Games's antitrust lawsuit against Google over Google's practices related to its Play app store on Android phones.

Google escapes US court-mandated negative instruction but will face further scrutiny over chat preservation in Epic trial

1 December: Google escaped a court-mandated negative direction over its failure to preserve internal communications that could be used as evidence in its antitrust fight with Epic Games, but will be subject to further scrutiny for the behavior, a federal judge said as both sides finished presenting evidence.

Google, Epic executives field tough questions as US app store antitrust trial nears end of testimony

1 December: A Google executive testified today at an app store antitrust trial that Apple was its primary app store competitor, as the search giant began its first full day presenting its side of the case to nine jurors in San Francisco who will soon decide Epic Games’ antitrust allegations against Google’s app business.

Activision, Riot signed partnership deals with Google, dropped app store ideas, US jury told

30 November: Google entered into commercial partnerships worth hundreds of millions of dollars with top gaming developers Activision Blizzard King and Riot Games, which abandoned ideas to launch independent app stores, a US federal jury in Epic Games’ antitrust lawsuit against Google heard today.

Google Play antitrust dispute still solvable, US judge says, ordering settlement talks

29 November: Google and Epic Games should still be exploring a deal to settle their Android app market antitrust dispute, US District Judge James Donato told the parties after a day of expert testimony.

Google has 'utter dominance' in Android app distribution, Epic’s economist tells jury in US antitrust trial

28 November: Google has overwhelming monopoly power in the market for app distribution on Android phones and engaged in anticompetitive practices to sustain it, an economist hired by Epic Games told the jury in the US trial over Google’s Play store.

Comment: Epic makes progress in evidence dispute in US antitrust suit against Google; trial passes halfway mark

22 November: In Epic Games’ antitrust challenge to Google’s app business, the owner of popular game Fortnite is close to a victory that would boost the strength of the case it hands to a jury next month, thanks to Google’s failure to preserve evidence.

Expert witnesses for Epic Games, Google take stand as US app store antitrust trial continues

22 November: Epic Games and Google presented a federal jury with two widely divergent views from expert witnesses from each company about Android's restrictions on "sideloading" apps from sources other than the Google Play app store, as the antitrust trial over app distribution on Android phones and Google's in-app payment processing rules continued today in San Francisco.

Epic CEO Tim Sweeney testifies Fortnite could make billions but for Google's app store policies

21 November: Fortnite, the popular game owned by Epic Games, could reach hundreds of millions of Android phone users and potentially make billions of dollars if Google stops enforcing app store policies that Epic alleges are anticompetitive, CEO Tim Sweeney told a US federal jury today.

Epic Games asked by judge to propose potential jury directions adverse to Google in US antitrust lawsuit

17 November: Epic Games was asked by a US federal judge to come up with potential, specific jury directions to draw conclusions adverse to Google in the antitrust lawsuit over Google’s Android app store.

Top app developers raised concerns over being forced to use Google in-app payment only, jury hears in US antitrust litigation

15 November: Top app developers, including Google’s own YouTube, raised concerns over the requirement to use only Google’s in-app payment system, citing high fees, negative impact on users and being put at a competitive disadvantage, a jury heard today in a US antitrust lawsuit over Android's app store.

Google cites Apple’s privacy campaign to justify Android alternative app-download process, at US antitrust trial

15 November: Apple’s campaign to drive home that its privacy protections are superior to Android's is being used by Google to fend off allegations in US litigation that Google makes it difficult for users to download apps from sources other than the Google Play app store in an anticompetitive way.

Google CEO Pichai testifies in US antitrust trial over Android app store

14 November: Google CEO Sundar Pichai today took the witness stand in US litigation over Google's app store to testify about issues including the company’s revenue-sharing arrangement with Apple and Samsung and its internal policy to preserve communications for litigation.

Apple's revenue-share change for developers sent Google into 'scramble,' jury hears in US antitrust litigation

14 November: Rumors in 2016 that Apple was considering giving subscription-based apps a bigger share of in-app revenue triggered concerns within Google and prompted it to match Apple’s terms, jurors heard today in US antitrust litigation over Google’s Play Store.

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